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Post by krisgriebe on May 24, 2017 15:44:26 GMT
Recently, Louise Mensch has claimed that the SCOTUS Marshal was dispatched to inform Trump that impeachment proceedings have begun against him. The original claim stated that he was met on the tarmac at Andrews AFB. I present the following evidence to dispute this claim: Trump at Andrews AFBThis video shows Trump leaving Andrews. No encounter with SCOTUS Marshal. I will also present the data available from House.gov which shows the duties and responsibilities of the SCOTUS Marshal. The operative point here is that the jurisdiction for the SCOTUS Marshal resides solely on the grounds of the SCOTUS building, and there is no authority off grounds. She has made a second claim of the SCOTUS Marshal being dispatched to warn Trump over the Muslim ban. The same documentation above applies to this situation. This would, again, fall outside the jurisdiction of the SCOTUS Marshal. Please review the provided documentation and come to your own conclusion. |
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Post by Silas⊙ on May 24, 2017 15:48:31 GMT
My belief here is that the whole "tarmac" thing was just completely fucking out of thin air. However, the claim that Trump knows of his impending impeachment "might" be correct. (0 substantiation) Just a guess. But he probably knows. Though that video clearly shows evidence that some of Louise Mensch work is not trust-able.  no scotus marshall.... >.> |
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Post by krisgriebe on May 24, 2017 15:50:21 GMT
The SCOTUS has no involvement in impeachment proceedings. This would begin in the House, and we would know the moment impeachment begun, because it would require a floor resolution. You cannot begin impeachment proceedings in secret.
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Post by Silas⊙ on May 24, 2017 15:55:33 GMT
The SCOTUS has no involvement in impeachment proceedings. This would begin in the House, and we would know the moment impeachment begun, because it would require a floor resolution. You cannot begin impeachment proceedings in secret. This is the one part of the whole situation that I keep coming back too. This is unprecedented, how do we know that all of this wasn't ordered to be "super duper secret" clearance? It could (since we don't know the full scope yet) already be near completed because we know for a fact that GJ's are being held under a FISA court. That's secret shit. But as far as the marshal on the tarmac? People need to stop smoking so much crack. |
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Post by krisgriebe on May 24, 2017 16:13:50 GMT
One thing to keep in mind, all of the actions of government in this regard (relating to Impeachment) are codified. It doesn't matter how special or unique this circumstance is, in order to perform a "super duper secret" (which would be TS/SCI in real classification terms), the laws on the books would have to change. We would notice if US Code was being changed to accommodate a new method of impeachment. As it stands, what we know is that there are a handful of GOP Congresspersons who have used the word. There are a handful of Democratic Congresspersons who have intimated they want to proceed. No Congressperson has filed any sort of resolution to that end, nor will they, until they know there is a reasonable change that the Impeachment is ratified by the house. Here is a good reference document for Impeachment |
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Post by Silas⊙ on May 24, 2017 16:19:08 GMT
One thing to keep in mind, all of the actions of government in this regard (relating to Impeachment) are codified. It doesn't matter how special or unique this circumstance is, in order to perform a "super duper secret" (which would be TS/C in real classification terms), the laws on the books would have to change. We would notice if US Code was being changed to accommodate a new method of impeachment. As it stands, what we know is that there are a handful of GOP Congresspersons who have used the word. There are a handful of Democratic Congresspersons who have intimated they want to proceed. No Congressperson has filed any sort of resolution to that end, nor will they, until they know there is a reasonable change that the Impeachment is ratified by the house. Here is a good reference document for Impeachment
"Impeachment proceedings may be commenced in the House of Representatives by a Member declaring a charge of impeachment on his or her own initiative,1 by a Member presenting a memorial listing charges under oath,2 or by a Member depositing a resolution in the hopper, which is then referred to the appropriate committee.3 The impeachment process may be triggered by non-Members, such as when the Judicial Conference of the United States suggests that the House may wish to consider impeachment of a federal judge,4 where an Independent Counsel advises the House of any substantial and credible information which he or she believes might constitute grounds for impeachment,5 by message from the President,6 by a charge from a State or territorial legislature or grand jury,7 or, finally, by petition.8"
That is a direct copy/paste from the document that you linked.
Legally speaking, we would know, 100% if those proceedings were underway, basically. There isn't any possible way we don't know. Also, it (by this law) means that the SCOTUS Marshall report is completely wrong on all accounts.
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Post by krisgriebe on May 24, 2017 22:16:30 GMT
I have now also reviewed the video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJffrwYz5M&t=1sThere are two visible entrances to the plane throughout the entire video. Trump lands in Marine One, boards AF1, and is followed by Jared/Ivanka. In the rear, we see multiple agents and other officials board from the back entrance. At no point does anyone deplane. There are no visible stairs opposite side of the plane, and none could have been moved out of frame without the camera capturing it. Trump is on the ground for a whopping total of ~5 minutes. This is wholly and utterly debunked at this point. Absolutely no validity to the idea that Trump was met at Andrews AFB and delivered anything by the Marshal of the SCOTUS. |
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Post by Silas⊙ on May 24, 2017 22:22:49 GMT
I have now also reviewed the video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJffrwYz5M&t=1sThere are two visible entrances to the plane throughout the entire video. Trump lands in Marine One, boards AF1, and is followed by Jared/Ivanka. In the rear, we see multiple agents and other officials board from the back entrance. At no point does anyone deplane. There are no visible stairs opposite side of the plane, and none could have been moved out of frame without the camera capturing it. Trump is on the ground for a whopping total of ~5 minutes. This is wholly and utterly debunked at this point. Absolutely no validity to the idea that Trump was met at Andrews AFB and delivered anything by the Marshal of the SCOTUS. Additionally, during the duration that Trump is on screen, there is 0 evidence at all that video was altered. If trump was informed of anything, it was not here, and not at this time.Period. |
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